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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 31, 2008 5:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

No, this is not a Donna-bashing post (although not a bad idea for "breaking" someone):

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/19/9734/

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 1, 2008 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

your post got me thinking of a story that was told on the Howard stern show once. One of the guys was having a problem with his neighbor complaining about him playing the music too loud. I guess it reached a pretty ugly level. So the guy leaves for vacation but before he goes he cranks his stereo and puts suite judy blues eyes in. However, he cues it up to the end and runs it on a loop. So for days all the other guys hears is "doo doo doo doo, doo doo ddo doo" over and over again

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 1, 2008 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture- Stereo war manual

Excellent stories for sure.

Stereo wars are best fought between people on different floors of the same part of the building.

My cousin had a fairly loud stereo and a serious madonna problem upstairs in our cult like commune back in the early 80's. I saved up and took gift funds to radio shack and got the largest woofer speakers and most powerful amp they had, an autoreversing top of the line metal cased cassete deck and a linear tracking turntable.

I would lock my bedroom door, put on black sabbath or beethoven on repeat on the table or the cassete deck, crank that shit and hit play. Get out the window before my ears started to bleed and go out for the night. That was hilarious. Had some similar battles with strangers and neighbors since then and have learned some valuable lessons on what to do when out watted.

1. Buy a 400 watt biamped bass amplifier stack with 18" woofer and two 12" mids... plug in active pickup bass and go ballistic, that should solve most problems, it's the bass that travels the easiest and when in close quarters you can rattle windows playing silly shit like "how much is that doggy in the window"... it's true. If that don't do it , move on to step 2.

2. Take a barbell from a weight bench, poke it up through the drywall in the ceiling under where their turntable, or favorite chair is. You can skip their record or CD (uncomfirmed on the CD) or annoy the piss out of them with the sound and tactile thumping from below- if enemy is downstairs see step 3.

3. Take the weights you stripped off the barbell (preferably steel) and drop them one at a time. This is good for indoor snow from popcorn ceilings, dust in drinks besides the obvious sound barrage. If enemy is next door see step 4.

4. Basketballs will not mar most wall coverings and make a nice combination bass thump and phased ping like noise. I think the thump is the only frequency that really makes it through but the ping is yours to enjoy as a bonus. This is good for knocking pictures off walls as well as an occasional flicking off of a light switch and loosening of electrical plug snugness of your enemies war chest. This also works to a limited degree on people upstairs and down but depends on the target and attacker's floor covering composition. Carpet will kill the efffectiveness of this method of attack, proceed with caution. If you are technically inclined and really want to go over the top, see step 5.

5. This is probably a bad idea for battling someone below you but if you have some drywall and basic home electronic skills you can turn a wall or certain ceilings into speaker cabinets. This does work, trust me. You cut a slightly oblong and slightly undersized opening in the wall or ceiling (must be a ceiling with drywall or plaster and a space between the wooden rafters/floor above, concrete poured floors will kill this one). Insert speaker (preferably woofer) on an angle into the whole and force through so egde of mounting plate cuts grooves to allow it to fit without leaving space around speaker, this is harder with plaster than with drywall for obvious reasons. Once speaker is in, shoot a few screws up and try and hook at least one speaker mount hole to secure it. We don't care if it rattles but we don't want to loose air pressure. You now have a speaker cabinet the size of your room and thumping room above. Crank whale songs or beastie boys for maximum bass response. If you have a drum machine, plug it in and put on a monotonous simple beat with a roland 808 kick in it.

Remember, it isn't always the richest person with the most wattage, it's the person that is willing to go the distance and make a stand for musical justice.

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Poster: veblen Date: Aug 31, 2008 7:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

for the better part of five months earlier this year I was at war with a street musician that played his electric guitar from anywhere from 11pm-1am until 2am-3am nightly a few blocks away from me. One note from his amp would have me going nuts; it was like he was playing in my room.

I could tell that at one time he had talent but now he just plays the same three or four blues lines over-and-over-and-over-and-over and where the overs continue for hours only to be broken when some drunk stevie vai wanna-be wants to impress his girl...and after a few minutes of that I find myself wanting the blues riffs back...

water boarding is kid stuff compared to having to listen to that for hours at at time...

anyway, I am pretty sure his last gig was for the fbi at waco...he played between the rabbit mating tracks...

so after that experience it is easy to see how music can be used as torture...

funny, but after trying just about everything to block the noise I found one thing that worked, and that is listening to indian sitar music (e.g., ragas) at a spinal-tap 11 on the volume. Unfortunately listening to that for three hours prior to bed is not very conducive to a good night's rest. Plus, more often than not I found myself at all night indian joints after 2AM...the guitar guy is home sleeping or getting his buzz on and I am wide awake stuffed on naan...

actually I shouldn't be saying anything since last week he tried to begin again and at anytime I could here that late-night twanging of blues begin again...god I hate those blues riffs...

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Poster: mickmac Date: Aug 31, 2008 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

The torture never stops.FZ

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 1, 2008 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

That was damn funny (sorry) and a great read.

BTW, V, have you ever seen a little machine (sorry, no clue what it is called!) that some hotels have to drown out local noise? It looks like a little "scent" machine the size of an alarm clock and it makes a noise like the ocean (loud fan, etc.). Soothing. Right by your head on nightstand.

I love em...

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Poster: veblen Date: Sep 1, 2008 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

I normally use a fan for white noise but where I am living might require one of those machines. thanks for the suggestion.

I have to say it took a week or so to get to the indian music, I tried all sorts of tunes but the guy's guitar twangs would come though if there was even the slightest gap between notes. But if you get ravi or other sitar players going with a tabla it is just balls-to-the-wall jamming and there is no empty space for any outside notes to enter. But as noted it triggered other issues like a sudden need for curry and mango ice cream...

I have a fair amount of indian music but I always return to my first which is ravi's sounds of india...guess what year: 1968!!!

oh, one other torture story I thought of:
while living in dallas a younger friend was renting his first house in a nice neighborhood and asked if there is anything he should do since he wanted to use the place to practice music(he was a grunge guitar player). I told him to avoid any hassles he should be pro-active and have a nice chat with everyone on the block telling them what to expect and provide them with time limits, etc.. Well he was all excited before and even after speaking with his neighbors. Then about a week later I arrive at this place and he hands me this note from a neighbor in somewhat of a shocked state.

The letter stated: "I appreciate you stopping by last week but you stated that you were a musician and that you would be playing music, but what you are playing is not music by any definition of the word, it is just plain torture."

boy, I felt so bad for him since he really wasn't that bad and he tried to do the right thing by speaking with the neighbors. Though it only takes one to cause trouble...

anyway, the next weekend I helped him soundproof a room...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 31, 2008 6:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

They forgot to mention Noriega was also driven from his compound in Panama that way.

Pretty funny about Barney, clearly someone with small kids had that idea.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Aug 31, 2008 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Grateful Dead - Music as Torture

well, YOU mentioned the name, ELBOW -- sorry dude.... i only learned of this travesty today myself... please ENJOY:

The Dead w/Barney

i used to like IKO too..... oh well.... (and can i mention, a small aside, but... i think BARNEY shreds Vince unmercifully.....)



This post was modified by He Live's on 2008-09-01 01:51:28

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 1, 2008 5:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead - Music as Torture

Thanks that's great. Made my morning!

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Aug 31, 2008 6:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

OMG...I had never seen that clip. What if you were really um, 'altered', and you were at that show...and Barney came out and started jammin with the Dead? If anything would make you swear off the stuff...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 31, 2008 6:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead - Music as Torture

that hurt

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Sep 2, 2008 2:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

Remember that massacre in Waco Texas in 1993? The FBI played recordings of Mickey's Guyoto Monks overnight, in attempt to drive David Koresh and his followers crazy...

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Poster: gumby69 Date: Sep 2, 2008 11:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Music as Torture

The military once asked Alain Jourgenson of Ministry if they could use his music for interogation, he told them to piss off. Ha Ha.